River Country

[mmfancipher 31]

I just asked danlb_2000 why he thinks it's for Project 89.  I'll let you know what he says.

 

[Tri-Circle-D 2,059]

35 minutes ago, WannaBeImagineer said:

I just looked at the plans and read the engineering report, I don't see any relation to Project 89 which was the soil borings at the Fort.

This project is called Stolport Stockpile, its located next to the old runway and is going to be a 30 acre stockpile, no clue why or where the dirt is coming from.

I'm not sure if these links will work:

Engineering Report

http://apps.sfwmd.gov/entsb/docdownload?object_id=0900eeea8a588315

Plans

http://apps.sfwmd.gov/entsb/docdownload?object_id=0900eeea8a5882f9

 

WBI

Thanks for sharing your analysis, Nick. 

A 30 acre stockpile?  That's huge!  I wonder if Disney is excavating something somewhere on property?  Maybe new retention for the Star Wars expansion at DHS?  A canal for boat service to the Four Seasons?

 TCD 

[mmfancipher 31]

In the Engineering Report in the April 23, 2018 Memorandum (page 38) it states Project 89.  Or am I misreading this?

 

[WannaBeImagineer 98]

36 minutes ago, mmfancipher said:

In the Engineering Report in the April 23, 2018 Memorandum (page 38) it states Project 89.  Or am I misreading this?

 

You're not misreading at all, good catch!

The attached getotech report does say project 89.

Seems odd to stockpile material there before hauling it over to the river country area though, we always try to handle material as little as possible.  The more you touch the more it cost.

WBI

[WannaBeImagineer 98]

58 minutes ago, Tri-Circle-D said:

Thanks for sharing your analysis, Nick. 

A 30 acre stockpile?  That's huge!  I wonder if Disney is excavating something somewhere on property?  Maybe new retention for the Star Wars expansion at DHS?  A canal for boat service to the Four Seasons?

 TCD 

It looks like I missed that is related to that Project 89.

But did you ever see the conveyor system they had setup for Star Wars Expansion at Hollywood Studios?  They created a new retention pond on the west side of World drive and the conveyor crossed over World Drive and dumped dirt on the new construction site.  I never saw it in person but you could see it in the aerial updates.  Very cool construction technique, it's already been taken down though.

WBI

[keith_h 420]

3 minutes ago, WannaBeImagineer said:

Seems odd to stockpile material there before hauling it over to the river country area though, we always try to handle material as little as possible.  The more you touch the more it cost.

Depending upon the soils in RC they might need to remove soil and replace it. The airport site would allow for both removal and new soil. It would also let Disney control the heavy truck traffic better so that it is out of the way of visitors.

[Tri-Circle-D 2,059]

6 minutes ago, WannaBeImagineer said:

It looks like I missed that is related to that Project 89.

But did you ever see the conveyor system they had setup for Star Wars Expansion at Hollywood Studios?  They created a new retention pond on the west side of World drive and the conveyor crossed over World Drive and dumped dirt on the new construction site.  I never saw it in person but you could see it in the aerial updates.  Very cool construction technique, it's already been taken down though.

WBI

Yes I saw that conveyor system many times. I never knew what it was for though. I assumed they were using it to transport construction material to cut down on construction traffic at the park. Transferring fill makes much more sense. 

TCD 

[Travisma 1,317]

49 minutes ago, Tri-Circle-D said:

Yes I saw that conveyor system many times. I never knew what it was for though. I assumed they were using it to transport construction material to cut down on construction traffic at the park. Transferring fill makes much more sense. 

TCD 

I'm surprised that they didn't try to make the conveyor belt a tier one Fast Pass ride!

[mouseketab.....Carol 1,261]

Interesting.... but I can't stand reading those things cause of all the passive voice. Proposals should be in active voice!!!

 

[GaDawgFan.....Kelly 799]

Here’s an article with pictures....

http://blogmickey.com/2018/05/more-permits-filed-for-potential-river-country-area-hotel/

Good catch Fiends!


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Disneybishops 13]

When did they do the 2100 loop looks to me they are expanding some 

[mouseketab.....Carol 1,261]

They converted it from cabins to campsites probably a couple of years ago.

[Tri-Circle-D 2,059]

1 hour ago, mouseketab.....Carol said:

They converted it from cabins to campsites probably a couple of years ago.

Two years ago is correct. We had a good discussion about it and many photos showing the progress of construction in this thread:

 

TCD

[Grumpy and Grandma 740]

Not River Country....Disney's Discovery Lodge.

See my post in the DVC section....🤔

[shoreline99 137]

Ugh. And it's a horrible design. As an architect, I will say this is no better than a crappy chain hotel. At least the hotel that was originally designed for this location was realllly well themed.

http://blogmickey.com/2018/10/breaking-disney-confirms-plans-to-develop-new-resort-on-old-river-country-grounds-near-fort-wilderness/?fbclid=IwAR3IiIOQ6vT3NkCKxQEIuJdTMkh5QxNttyA9JmpPw5t3hNRtAeVWMT--Mxg

[Tri-Circle-D 2,059]

36 minutes ago, shoreline99 said:

Ugh. And it's a horrible design. As an architect, I will say this is no better than a crappy chain hotel. At least the hotel that was originally designed for this location was realllly well themed.

http://blogmickey.com/2018/10/breaking-disney-confirms-plans-to-develop-new-resort-on-old-river-country-grounds-near-fort-wilderness/?fbclid=IwAR3IiIOQ6vT3NkCKxQEIuJdTMkh5QxNttyA9JmpPw5t3hNRtAeVWMT--Mxg

I agree. It kind of looks like Bay Lake Tower. What a wasted opportunity. 

They also released updated artwork for the big tower they're adding to Coronado Springs. Like this- it looks like a sleek generic hotel. It doesn't match the previous theme of Coronado Springs at all. 

I really hate the direction they've taken with these new resorts. I guess theming cuts into the bottom line too much.  We can't have that.

TCD

[DaveInTN 3,247]

Ok, I've changed my mind on the name....it won't be Cypress Springs.  It will be Disney's Spring Hill Suites.  

Seriously, it looks like something Marriott would build in an office park off the beltway, in Anytown USA.  I really had thought they'd build the design that was leaked several years ago, which excited me.  Tearing down the horse barn and paving over the TCD Ranch for this is sad.  

[Littleolwoman.aka.Kristie 119]

Really!?! What a disappointment. Not the neighbor I was hoping for. 

[Starbuc71 162]

......and it begins.  3 years of opinions about this horrible monstrosity of a resort

[Littleolwoman.aka.Kristie 119]

1 minute ago, Starbuc71 said:

......and it begins.  3 years of opinions about this horrible monstrosity of a resort

Lol, come on put on your grumpy opinionated pants and join in the fun. 

[DaveInTN 3,247]

The more I think about it, the more I think Discovery Lodge is the likely name.  Because Disney has Discovered they can sell these units no matter how ugly they are.    

[shoreline99 137]

15 minutes ago, DaveInTN said:

Ok, I've changed my mind on the name....it won't be Cypress Springs.  It will be Disney's Spring Hill Suites.  

Seriously, it looks like something Marriott would build in an office park off the beltway, in Anytown USA.  I really had thought they'd build the design that was leaked several years ago, which excited me.  Tearing down the horse barn and paving over the TCD Ranch for this is sad.  

Totally a generic hotel. It's really ridiculous. Almost to the point of being repulsively bland.

At least the moderate and better resorts that went up in the Eisner era (from WL and the Grand Flo through the Boardwalk/Yacht/Beach) were really well done. I'll exclude Graves' Swan and Dolphin as they weren't really Disney hotels. Bay Lake Tower is horrible, too. The least they could have done is blend the architecture from Wilderness Lodge and the Fort to make something that fit well with the surrounding areas - the previous design for this location did just that. It was still way over-scaled for the site, but at least it was headed in the right direction.

I hope that this is just rough concept art, and I'm wrong, but it looks pretty far along to be just spitballing.

[Littleolwoman.aka.Kristie 119]

I didn't realize it was going to be a deluxe hotel? I wonder when the privacy fence will go up to screen out the view of the lowly campers. 😎

[PghBob 31]

"Nature Inspired".  Does that mean it will offer out-houses?  Or that remnants of the TCD barn will be hung on the wall?  Maybe a picture of a deer?

I don't know anything about building a resort, but I know when a proposal looks totally out of place.  This one does BIG TIME.  Put it over in Square Building Land where it belongs.  Hopes dashed again.

[ImDownWithDisney 342]

2 hours ago, DaveInTN said:

Ok, I've changed my mind on the name....it won't be Cypress Springs.  It will be Disney's Spring Hill Suites.  

Seriously, it looks like something Marriott would build in an office park off the beltway, in Anytown USA.  I really had thought they'd build the design that was leaked several years ago, which excited me.  Tearing down the horse barn and paving over the TCD Ranch for this is sad.  

I agree. This design appears to suck. The original design was awesome.