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53 minutes ago, DaveInTN said:

I like that the new barn will be built down in the general Settlement area, rather than out by the Outpost as was discussed 8 or 9 years ago.  However, the only reason they're doing it this way is because it can be advertised as an amenity for Reflections.  I bet they will push carriage rides, trail rides and pony rides, and perhaps even offer some grossly overpriced equine therapy sessions among the various spa packages they'll offer.  

It will be with a Donkey/Mule and the CM's will know it as the Jackass Sessions.  

Disney fanatics are fleeced for every last $$ so they have bragging rights that they did everything at the resort.

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Looks like a boat dock in the top right corner of C-104.

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Also, I knew they were planning bungalows but I don't think I appreciated the fact that when sitting on the side porch at TE you'll be looking right into them.  What a cluster this plan is.  I gave them the benefit of the doubt that they'd do the right thing by Fort Wilderness and create a beautiful, complimentary resort.  But this doesn't look good.  It truly is taking over the settlement.  

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13 minutes ago, DaveInTN said:

Looks like a boat dock in the top right corner of C-104.

permit-reflections-dvc-hotel-layout-high

 

Also, I knew they were planning bungalows but I don't think I appreciated the fact that when sitting on the side porch at TE you'll be looking right into them.  What a cluster this plan is.  I gave them the benefit of the doubt that they'd do the right thing by Fort Wilderness and create a beautiful, complimentary resort.  But this doesn't look good.  It truly is taking over the settlement.  

Yup. Look at those giant parking lots. Think of the thousands of new guests enjoying what used to be the Settlement. 

I have to believe that they aren't going to want golf carts and Fort guests near their pretty new resort. 

TCD

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6 minutes ago, Tri-Circle-D said:

Buy tickets to a dessert party. 

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Guests of Loop 3000 will also have access to the FWG lounge including their famous bottomless kungaloosh mugs.  

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2 minutes ago, ImDownWithDisney said:

Also the preferred loops, 400, 700, and maybe 800 are going to be within earshot of all of the cars coming and going, slamming doors, screaming kids, etc. The full hookup loops will be the new preferred lol 

Sadly, that's a valid point. 

It also looks like the Settlement Bus Stop is going to be covered by the new parking lot. I wonder how that will be handled?

TCD

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10 minutes ago, Tri-Circle-D said:

Does anyone have a guess what is depicted in the top right corner of the plans?

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I don't think that's a canal. Is it a road?  For deliveries to the Trading Post?  Or is this for golf carts or something?

TCD

Whatever it is, part of it seems to infringe on the back of some sites in 100.   There is an existing canal of sorts there already, but I agree this doesn't look to be a canal.  

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20 minutes ago, DaveInTN said:

Should we take bets on whether the shoe tree survives or if it goes to join the lawnmower tree in the big forest in the sky?

If they keep it, it’ll have to be bedecked with them $1000 fancy Eyetalian shoes and have crystal dangling doo dads on it!

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2 hours ago, Tri-Circle-D said:

Does anyone have a guess what is depicted in the top right corner of the plans?

 

My guess is that is the access to the new beach area.  It appears all of Clementine's Beach will be bungalows.  I had originally thought there would be two beaches one for the new resort (Old Clementine's Beach) and the one they seem to be constructing would be for the Fort.  I wonder if the new construction will mean just one beach?  I wonder if that would be a shared beach or just for the Fort?

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I know I can be a complainer and even a Debby downer a lot of the time, but this is just BS. What the hell are they doing?  They own so much land and they are purposely building this right on top of the fort. Iger ruined Disney.  He has no love for the fort, just money. I’m sure we can debate DVC all day here, but in my opinion it’s just another cash cow scam. This gets me so upset that the most peaceful and beautiful place in all of Disney is slowly going to the wayside.  I’m sure it’s just a matter of time until something drastic happens at the campgrounds. Can you imagine the people that will be going to the campfire and the meadows pool once this is built?  I’m sure there will be a card reader to get into the resort but nothing to get into the fort. So so sad. I’m glad we had the memories we did. Good luck faithful Disney campers. You’re going to need it

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9 minutes ago, Starbuc71 said:

I know I can be a complainer and even a Debby downer a lot of the time, but this is just BS. What the hell are they doing?  They own so much land and they are purposely building this right on top of the fort. Iger ruined Disney.  He has no love for the fort, just money. I’m sure we can debate DVC all day here, but in my opinion it’s just another cash cow scam. This gets me so upset that the most peaceful and beautiful place in all of Disney is slowly going to the wayside.  I’m sure it’s just a matter of time until something drastic happens at the campgrounds. Can you imagine the people that will be going to the campfire and the meadows pool once this is built?  I’m sure there will be a card reader to get into the resort but nothing to get into the fort. So so sad. I’m glad we had the memories we did. Good luck faithful Disney campers. You’re going to need it

Fully agree. 

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11 hours ago, DaveInTN said:

Looks like a boat dock in the top right corner of C-104.

permit-reflections-dvc-hotel-layout-high

 

Also, I knew they were planning bungalows but I don't think I appreciated the fact that when sitting on the side porch at TE you'll be looking right into them.  What a cluster this plan is.  I gave them the benefit of the doubt that they'd do the right thing by Fort Wilderness and create a beautiful, complimentary resort.  But this doesn't look good.  It truly is taking over the settlement.  

On the bright side look at all of the new bus stops in the middle of c-108!!! Now we have direct access to all of the parks.. 

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9 hours ago, YENSIDCAMPER said:

My guess is that is the access to the new beach area.  It appears all of Clementine's Beach will be bungalows.  I had originally thought there would be two beaches one for the new resort (Old Clementine's Beach) and the one they seem to be constructing would be for the Fort.  I wonder if the new construction will mean just one beach?  I wonder if that would be a shared beach or just for the Fort?

Why would they put a dirty beach in a DVC?

I'm sure they will have an upscale A/C area for the guests to watch the fireworks and the Electric Water Pageant from while sipping on their fancy drinks and eating their caviar.

On a side note, we watched the pageant from the Poly Beach a while ago, and the music seemed to be a lot quieter than the Fort.  Is it toned down around the resorts to keep from disturbing the guests?  I mean at the Fort you can hear the music from just about every loop.

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1 hour ago, BayLake Campers said:

On the bright side look at all of the new bus stops in the middle of c-108!!! Now we have direct access to all of the parks.. 

Yeah, but where's the golf cart parking?  I guess they can chop down the rest of those useless trees on the east of Pioneer Hall and we can park there.  Since they will undoubtedly give the DVC folks a bus to the MK, they can shut down the Fort marina too. That will cut down on the boat traffic going by those $3000 a night bungalows. 

TCD

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