twiceblessed....nacole 433 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 So, our new rig has 50 amp service; our TT had 30 amp. We have a 30 amp surge protector that I was going to keep in case we ran into a situation where the 50 amp outlet was not working, but Tom had a good question: -Could we use an adapter (50 amp down to 30 amp) at the pedestal, then plug the RV power cord into the 50 amp surge protector. We understand that we would still be limited to 30 amp service however, could we do this and (therefore) only carry around one surge protector? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dblr....Rennie 224 Posted March 12, 2017 Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 That is what I used to do but I am not saying that is correct, never had a issue and a friend who is a electrician said it would be fine, plus you have the energy issue under control knowing you can only be limited to 30amp Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twiceblessed....nacole 433 Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 13 minutes ago, dblr....Rennie said: That is what I used to do but I am not saying that is correct, never had a issue and a friend who is a electrician said it would be fine, plus you have the energy issue under control knowing you can only be limited to 30amp Thanks. The more we thought about it (and spent time on google ?), the more we figured it would probably be okay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twiceblessed....nacole 433 Posted March 12, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 12, 2017 Next question. Spend money on the more expensive or not? Last time around, we went with one that cost us close to $300 and it seemed to work well. This time, the two that we're considering on Amazon, the cheaper one has more reviews (probably because it cost less...haha), but if we can save money...we'd rather. However, we also want something that's going to do the job. Here are the two we are looking at: https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Research-44270-Surge-Protector/dp/B00IACGFOA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489356068&sr=8-1&keywords=50+amp+surge+protector+for+rv OR https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Research-34850-Portable-Surge/dp/B00T36QHUO/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1489356419&sr=8-6&keywords=50+amp+surge+protector+for+rv Thoughts?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Travisma 1,317 Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 18 hours ago, twiceblessed....nacole said: Next question. Spend money on the more expensive or not? Last time around, we went with one that cost us close to $300 and it seemed to work well. This time, the two that we're considering on Amazon, the cheaper one has more reviews (probably because it cost less...haha), but if we can save money...we'd rather. However, we also want something that's going to do the job. Here are the two we are looking at: https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Research-44270-Surge-Protector/dp/B00IACGFOA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489356068&sr=8-1&keywords=50+amp+surge+protector+for+rv OR https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Research-34850-Portable-Surge/dp/B00T36QHUO/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1489356419&sr=8-6&keywords=50+amp+surge+protector+for+rv Thoughts?? Thought you were going to use your current 30 amp one? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bwithers13 0 Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 I'm an electrician for the University of Illinois. I'd say aslong as your plugged into a 30 amp service and you know what you can run to stay under 30 amps you should be fine! If it were me I'd do it. Those things are expensive! If you do over amp the only thing that could happen is you could trip/fry your surge protector and trip the breaker! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twiceblessed....nacole 433 Posted March 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 32 minutes ago, Travisma said: Thought you were going to use your current 30 amp one? No, no. I want the 50 amps. My question was if there was no 50 amp service at the pedestal, could we plug in the adapter (30 amp male to 50 amp female) and then plug the new 50 amp surge protector into the adapter and then the RV power cord into the surge protector. I will still get a new 50 amp surge protector...but I may call the dealership and see how much they'd charge to hardwire one in. That way I don't have to plug/unplug it and the prices on Amazon seem to be a smidge cheaper for the ones that you hardwire, so it might be about the same or just a little more. This also would keep it out of the elements. 22 minutes ago, Bwithers13 said: I'm an electrician for the University of Illinois. I'd say aslong as your plugged into a 30 amp service and you know what you can run to stay under 30 amps you should be fine! If it were me I'd do it. Those things are expensive! If you do over amp the only thing that could happen is you could trip/fry your surge protector and trip the breaker! Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Avatab.... Steve 124 Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 23 hours ago, twiceblessed....nacole said: Next question. Spend money on the more expensive or not? Last time around, we went with one that cost us close to $300 and it seemed to work well. This time, the two that we're considering on Amazon, the cheaper one has more reviews (probably because it cost less...haha), but if we can save money...we'd rather. However, we also want something that's going to do the job. Here are the two we are looking at: https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Research-44270-Surge-Protector/dp/B00IACGFOA/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1489356068&sr=8-1&keywords=50+amp+surge+protector+for+rv OR https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Research-34850-Portable-Surge/dp/B00T36QHUO/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1489356419&sr=8-6&keywords=50+amp+surge+protector+for+rv Thoughts?? When we went from our 30amp MH to our current 50amp I had the same questions. I ended up getting the Camco one this time around and here is how Camco describes the difference between their two Surge Protectors and why one is so much more expensive than the other: What is the difference between this one and the $200 priced Camco Defender? Answer: The Power Defender Voltage Protector provides three functions. It monitors the voltage level of the power source and will disconnect power to the RV if there is an unsafe high or low voltage and automatically reconnects power once the voltage has maintained a safe operating range for two minutes. It indicates if the power source has correct or faulty wiring through a series of diagnostic LEDs. It provides surge protection to help prevent damage to the RV and electronics when a power surge or spike occurs. Here is a link to the voltage protector https://www.amazon.com/Camco-55301-Defender-Protector-PowerGrip/dp/B00JFWKM2K/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1470053387&sr=1-3&keywords=camco+circuit+analyzer The Circuit Analyzer provides two functions. It indicates if the power source has correct or faulty wiring through a series of diagnostic LEDs. It provides surge protection to help prevent damage to the RV and electronics when a power surge or spike occurs. It does not monitor the voltage level of the power source or disconnect the power to the RV. see less By Camco MANUFACTURER on April 28, 2016 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rtguy007 74 Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Nacole, I must be slackin. Dodnt know you actually bought a new rig. Knew you were looking. I wont provide any feedback on the bending of 30 to 50. However I will tell you that the hardwired option is much easier and provides security over the unit getting stolen. I have a progressive hw30c in my unit and love it. Dont have to mess with the cord and an adapter when using the ped. It makes life much easier. The remote module with display is eye opening. Cant tell you how many times that i glanced over to see we were operating under 120v. Sometimes as low as 108v and once 107v and it shut the power down. As i am sure tou know those little boxes are life savers in an emergency situation. I would stay away from the cheaper model if you do go that route. They are generally rated to take small hits but a larger one could still spell trouble. Just my .02. Congrats on the new rig. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith_h 420 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I own the 30A equivalent of this one you posted and it has worked well. I would not go with the less expensive one as it doesn't cover as many fault conditions. https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Research-34850-Portable-Surge/dp/B00T36QHUO/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1489356419&sr=8-6&keywords=50+amp+surge+protector+for+rv I would recommend this one over the Technology Research. While it has the fault coverage as the Technology Research it has a lifetime warranty. So if it ever needs to be replaced due to a power hit it is free. The TR surge protector is only a year as I recall. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twiceblessed....nacole 433 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 14 hours ago, Avatab.... Steve said: When we went from our 30amp MH to our current 50amp I had the same questions. I ended up getting the Camco one this time around and here is how Camco describes the difference between their two Surge Protectors and why one is so much more expensive than the other: What is the difference between this one and the $200 priced Camco Defender? Answer: The Power Defender Voltage Protector provides three functions. It monitors the voltage level of the power source and will disconnect power to the RV if there is an unsafe high or low voltage and automatically reconnects power once the voltage has maintained a safe operating range for two minutes. It indicates if the power source has correct or faulty wiring through a series of diagnostic LEDs. It provides surge protection to help prevent damage to the RV and electronics when a power surge or spike occurs. Here is a link to the voltage protector https://www.amazon.com/Camco-55301-Defender-Protector-PowerGrip/dp/B00JFWKM2K/ref=sr_1_3?s=automotive&ie=UTF8&qid=1470053387&sr=1-3&keywords=camco+circuit+analyzer The Circuit Analyzer provides two functions. It indicates if the power source has correct or faulty wiring through a series of diagnostic LEDs. It provides surge protection to help prevent damage to the RV and electronics when a power surge or spike occurs. It does not monitor the voltage level of the power source or disconnect the power to the RV. see less By Camco MANUFACTURER on April 28, 2016 Thank you! 12 hours ago, rtguy007 said: Nacole, I must be slackin. Dodnt know you actually bought a new rig. Knew you were looking. I wont provide any feedback on the bending of 30 to 50. However I will tell you that the hardwired option is much easier and provides security over the unit getting stolen. I have a progressive hw30c in my unit and love it. Dont have to mess with the cord and an adapter when using the ped. It makes life much easier. The remote module with display is eye opening. Cant tell you how many times that i glanced over to see we were operating under 120v. Sometimes as low as 108v and once 107v and it shut the power down. As i am sure tou know those little boxes are life savers in an emergency situation. I would stay away from the cheaper model if you do go that route. They are generally rated to take small hits but a larger one could still spell trouble. Just my .02. Congrats on the new rig. Thanks :) Yes... waiting to see how expensive it would be to hardwire one. You know how it goes, an extra $200 here...an extra $200 there 11 hours ago, keith_h said: I own the 30A equivalent of this one you posted and it has worked well. I would not go with the less expensive one as it doesn't cover as many fault conditions. https://www.amazon.com/Technology-Research-34850-Portable-Surge/dp/B00T36QHUO/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1489356419&sr=8-6&keywords=50+amp+surge+protector+for+rv I would recommend this one over the Technology Research. While it has the fault coverage as the Technology Research it has a lifetime warranty. So if it ever needs to be replaced due to a power hit it is free. The TR surge protector is only a year as I recall. Thanks!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith_h 420 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I just noticed my other link to the Progressive Industries surge protector was missing. This is the one with the lifetime warranty and I would recommend. Let's try this again: https://www.amazon.com/Progressive-Industries-EMS-PT50C-Portable-Protector/dp/B002UC4SWM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1489500947&sr=8-2&keywords=50+amp+surge+protector+for+rv Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twiceblessed....nacole 433 Posted March 14, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 1 hour ago, keith_h said: I just noticed my other link to the Progressive Industries surge protector was missing. This is the one with the lifetime warranty and I would recommend. Let's try this again: https://www.amazon.com/Progressive-Industries-EMS-PT50C-Portable-Protector/dp/B002UC4SWM/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1489500947&sr=8-2&keywords=50+amp+surge+protector+for+rv Yes, I've read several good things on Progressive... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rtguy007 74 Posted March 15, 2017 Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 11 hours ago, twiceblessed....nacole said: Yes, I've read several good things on Progressive... I second the progressive. We use the same one and i wouldnt trust any other brand. They warranty is fantstic. It doesnt take much to install a hardwired one. I have done 2 of them. If you onow how to wire an outlet in a house you can install one of these. It takes about 5-10 minutes to wire in and maybe another 5-10 to mount it. Seriously this is a very easy self install if you are comfortable doing it. The beat part is everything is color coded so it is kind of hard to screw it up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
twiceblessed....nacole 433 Posted March 15, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2017 8 hours ago, rtguy007 said: I second the progressive. We use the same one and i wouldnt trust any other brand. They warranty is fantstic. It doesnt take much to install a hardwired one. I have done 2 of them. If you onow how to wire an outlet in a house you can install one of these. It takes about 5-10 minutes to wire in and maybe another 5-10 to mount it. Seriously this is a very easy self install if you are comfortable doing it. The beat part is everything is color coded so it is kind of hard to screw it up. Thank you. I didn't realize it was that easy. I can do that! Plus.. I bet there's a youtube video of it as well, haha Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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