Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 This is weird. According to the Orlando Business Journal, "Walt Disney World's Fort Wilderness Resort and Campground is putting together plans to add a new dining pavilion soon." The article was originally published on August 4, 2016, and was updated on August 5, 2016 at 7:17 am. http://www.bizjournals.com/orlando/blog/2016/08/new-additions-in-the-works-for-disneys-fort.html The location described in the article is the same location where Disney previously proposed putting a new dining pavilion to replace the current one (the location of the Backyard BBQ), which was going to be displaced by a new DVC project. Their previous permit application for that project was the subject of much discussion here, but it ultimately expired. Here's a link to an old (like more than 5 years old-old) thread from here on Fort Fiends where the original application was discussed and dissected, as per usual. Note that it appears that the "new" application referred to in the OBJ article also refers to a 3.65 acre parcel: If this article is right, it signals the first step in the redevelopment of the old River Country area. But I think something isn't right with the article. TCD BradyBzLyn...Mo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Travisma 1,317 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Someone on a FB post (of course I cant find it now on my phone) made a cryptic comment a day or so ago about upcoming plans for River Country. Said she couldn't say what they were. Don't know if she's affiliated with the Mouse or not. She hinted at insider knowledge, but we've heard that before. The link you posted says near the grocery store, so depending on what they call "near" it could be the vacant land behind the trading post all the way to the new Lodge cabins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Just now, Travisma said: Someone on a FB post (of course I cant find it now on my phone) made a cryptic comment a day or so ago about upcoming plans for River Country. Said she couldn't say what they were. Don't know if she's affiliated with the Mouse or not. She hinted at insider knowledge, but we've heard that before. The link you posted says near the grocery store, so depending on what they call "near" it could be the vacant land behind the trading post all the way to the new Lodge cabins. Mark- When you get a chance read through the 2011 thread that I linked above. The previous plans called for the new Dining Pavilion to be part of 3.65 acres that would be developed in the area behind and around the Settlement Trading Post. The OBJ article mentions that the "new" permit is for that exact same amount of land. If there really was a "new" permit application filed, then it appears to really be the re-filing of the previous application. TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
shoreline99 137 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Nothing listed in the current permit applications regarding FW. Last open permit for the Fort looks like it's from 2008 BUT it is still listed as active. BradyBzLyn...Mo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 5 minutes ago, shoreline99 said: Nothing listed in the current permit applications regarding FW. Last open permit for the Fort looks like it's from 2008 BUT it is still listed as active. Thanks for confirming what you found. I spent some time looking around on the SFWMD site, and I don't see any new permit applications there. TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BayLake Campers 83 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 The original permit for the 3.65 acres was withdrawn on July 27, 2016 here is the link http://my.sfwmd.gov/ePermitting/DetailedReport.do?recordId=14&showMenu=false BradyBzLyn...Mo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 37 minutes ago, BayLake Campers said: The original permit for the 3.65 acres was withdrawn on July 27, 2016 here is the link http://my.sfwmd.gov/ePermitting/DetailedReport.do?recordId=14&showMenu=false Warren- That link didn't work for me! Please check it, or post a screen shot. I'd like to see what you saw. That's interesting that it was withdrawn just last week. After all this time? Maybe something is up? TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 So this rumor is gaining legs per the usual manner. Another blogger is telling us about this great new dining option that will be open "relatively soon" at Fort Wilderness. His source? The first blogger: http://www.insidethemagic.net/2016/08/new-dining-pavilion-coming-to-disneys-fort-wilderness-campground-in-orlando/ New dining pavilion coming to Disney’s Fort Wilderness campground in Orlando in Disney, Food, Hotel, Theme Parks, Walt Disney World Posted on August 5, 2016August 5, 2016 by Adam McCabe Leave a comment It looks like plans are coming together swiftly for a new dining pavilion at Disney’s Fort Wilderness at the Walt Disney World Resort. Orlando Business Journal reports that Walt Disney Parks & Resorts is seeking a permit from the South Florida Water Management District for a project that involves more than 3.65 acres of infrastructure “to serve a new dining pavilion building and associated pargo (golf cart) parking at Fort Wilderness,” documents showed. This is great news, as significant changes haven’t really come to the camp site in a while! It has been reported that the new dining pavilion will be located near Bay Lake and Fort Wilderness’ Settlement Trading Post. A perfect location for families to get together and dine amidst the wonderful natural setting smack-dab in the middle of the Walt Disney World Resort. No clear timeline has been given, but there’s no doubt Disney should have this new area up and running relatively soon. For all things Walt Disney World, stick with Inside the Magic! _________________________________ So there we have it! We will soon all have "a perfect location for families to get together and dine amidst the wonderful natural setting smack-dab in the middle of the Walt Disney World Resort." TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Whoopsie! Good thing I got a screen shot of the Orlando Business Journal article that started this round of rumors. 'cause it has now "poofed." Someone goofed over there. Nevermind. One of you ought to be nice and let that Inside the Magic guy to take down his post too. TCD BradyBzLyn...Mo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BayLake Campers 83 Posted August 5, 2016 Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Here are the two letters one is from Disney requesting the withdrawal the other is from SFWMD granting the withdrawal. BradyBzLyn...Mo and Tri-Circle-D 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted August 5, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 5, 2016 Great work, Warren. TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LONE-STAR 370 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 When we were at the Fort back in June I spoke with the Manager of trails end he may have been a little higher up then that. But he was telling me they are trying to get approved a small quick service grill with a few pick nick tables. It would be back near the arcade area going towards river country . He said that was the plan that most likely would go through. But then he told me there was a much larger plan that he didn't think would happen. I don't remember all the details on the bigger plan. BradyBzLyn...Mo 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BradyBzLyn...Mo 2,023 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 Great sleuthing all around folks! So... maybe someone at OBJ ran across some old info and got all excited that they might be breaking a new story? Too bad they didn't check in here first. Wouldn't be surprising. Old stories pop up out of nowhere on the web all the time, and if you don't "read.all.the.words." it's easy to miss that it's old news. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveInTN 3,247 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 It's possible the newspaper confused this with the permit that was recently pulled for the long awaited expansion at MBYMPaC. Business is booming, and a larger stage area is necessary to accommodate Delsa's new live extravaganza. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LONE-STAR 370 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 2 hours ago, DaveInTN said: It's possible the newspaper confused this with the permit that was recently pulled for the long awaited expansion at MBYMPaC. Business is booming, and a larger stage area is necessary to accommodate Delsa's new live extravaganza. How much are you charging at the gate now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DaveInTN 3,247 Posted August 6, 2016 Report Share Posted August 6, 2016 How much are you charging at the gate now? That's at the discretion of our bouncers. We have to maintain a certain standard with our crowds. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Travisma 1,317 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 2 hours ago, DaveInTN said: That's at the discretion of our bouncers. We have to maintain a certain standard with our crowds. Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using Tapatalk I heard that a can of PBR will get you in the exclusive box seats! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LONE-STAR 370 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Share Posted August 7, 2016 30 minutes ago, Travisma said: I heard that a can of PBR will get you in the exclusive box seats! I heard it was a cinnamon roll wrapped in bacon. lightbikes 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tri-Circle-D 2,059 Posted August 8, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 On 8/6/2016 at 3:28 PM, BradyBzLyn...Mo said: Great sleuthing all around folks! So... maybe someone at OBJ ran across some old info and got all excited that they might be breaking a new story? Too bad they didn't check in here first. Wouldn't be surprising. Old stories pop up out of nowhere on the web all the time, and if you don't "read.all.the.words." it's easy to miss that it's old news. And, one blogger speed reads what another blogger posts, and the story morphs into something different. Now, a blogger has posted that Fort Wilderness and Wilderness Lodge are getting a new dining pavilion and a new grocery store: http://wdwnt.com/blog/2016/08/dining-pavilion-grocery-store-to-be-added-soon-to-fort-wilderness-and-wilderness-lodge/ Dining Pavilion & Grocery Store to be Added Soon to Fort Wilderness and Wilderness Lodge 5 comments - Leave comment Posted in:Disney Dining, Walt Disney World Resort According to bizjournals.com, construction will begin soon on the new dining pavilion for Disney’s Fort Wilderness Resort and Wilderness Lodge. With the construction of additional Disney Vacation Club units (including cabins) already underway, new dining options and a grocery store will be built to serve the needs of these guests and the existing resorts. We first told you about these dining additions in June of 2015 when the resort expansion project was leaked. Disney has filed permits with the South Florida Water Management District this week to commence the project. ______________________________________________________ The source cited for this "news" is the OBJ article which has since been pulled. Ridiculous. TCD Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BradyBzLyn...Mo 2,023 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 It's basically the internet version of telephone, except everyone has the attention span of a gnat and never bothers to go back and correct their boo boos... if they even notice or acknowledge they've made them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
keith_h 420 Posted August 8, 2016 Report Share Posted August 8, 2016 6 hours ago, BradyBzLyn...Mo said: .... has the attention span of a gnat .... Based on the attention span of the gnat that I can't keep away from my computer screen every evening I think theirs is much longer than a blogger's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjpete 8 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 what is MBYMPAC? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Katman1356...Jason 1,140 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 9 minutes ago, rjpete said: what is MBYMPAC? I am guessing Dave wrote that and it would be something like Mickeys Backyard Massage Parlor and Casino Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rjpete 8 Posted August 17, 2021 Report Share Posted August 17, 2021 On 8/4/2021 at 3:14 PM, DaveInTN said: Do you know what $4800 will get you at MBYMPAC? 4 minutes ago, Katman1356...Jason said: I am guessing Dave wrote that and it would be something like Mickeys Backyard Massage Parlor and Casino Now that makes perfect sense "massage parlor and casino" or a New Orleans Square right in Fort Wilderness! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lightbikes 73 Posted August 19, 2021 Report Share Posted August 19, 2021 Now this is what I love about Fort Fiends - it starts off with a rumour about a new dining pavilion and winds up at MBYMPAC with cinnamon buns !!!! Thanks heavens - it compensates for all the money grabbing for fast passes at $15/day !!! Thank you folks - you save my sanity Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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