DaveInTN

On the topic of the bus stops...with the apparent loss of the Settlement Depot, I wonder where the internal Fort buses will unload? I highly doubt it will be at Reflections, but I guess it's possible. Or maybe they'll still use the existing Settlement bus loop for those routes, but eliminate the covered waiting area?

I 100% thought that would happen with the plans for this resort that were floating around 7-8 years ago or so. It matched the general wilderness theming. But this Maharisha Transcendental Downward Dog Commune With Nature Theming doesn't exactly scream "covered wagon".

That, and the other thing making me sad is the loss of isolation. At it's outset, the Fort was planned to isolate guests in a wilderness environment, free from the hectic nature of life including motor vehicles (other than those checking in and checking out). Remember, back in the day most folks didn't even drive their vehicles every day during their stay...they used Disney trams, boats and buses. There wasn't as much golf cart traffic either. It was a peaceful oasis. And even now, although there's more vehicle traffic in the resort than there used to be, for the most part when you are a

And C-109 certainly seems to confirm that the existing Settlement bus stop is being lost, as TCD pointed out earlier. I always liked that bus stop.

Should I assume at this point the tanker and covered wagon aren't coming back?

Then again....maybe they can just convert those loops to more bungalows.

Another thing....what will the impact of light pollution from those parking lots be on Loops 700 and 100 (and possibly 400)? Even worse, what about the light pollution streaming into the new horse barn? If the barn is impacted, it will affect the quality of rest for the horses. And while that might sound to many like a minor issue, I have to believe that Disney must care more about their horses than they do us low life campers. I hope they are taking that into consideration.

But that’s more of a burnt plastic smell from all of the credit cards melting from overuse.

It’s like the outer rim. It’s there, but it’s too far out to worry about and not worth the Empire’s time and effort to oversee and control it. I would guess nothing has changed with any smoking area out there.

Should we take bets on whether the shoe tree survives or if it goes to join the lawnmower tree in the big forest in the sky?

Whatever it is, part of it seems to infringe on the back of some sites in 100. There is an existing canal of sorts there already, but I agree this doesn't look to be a canal.

Coincidentally, beginning this fall Mickey's Backyard Massage Parlor and Casino will begin offering the Naughtily Ever After Fireworks Dessert Party. Enjoy a buffet dinner at Minnie's Ho Down Smorgasbord, a private rooftop VIP viewing area for the nightly show, plus the fireworks, followed by a whipped cream dessert extravaganza. Only $249pp. Guests of Loop 3000 will also have access to the FWG lounge including their famous bottomless kungaloosh mugs.

Looks like a boat dock in the top right corner of C-104. Also, I knew they were planning bungalows but I don't think I appreciated the fact that when sitting on the side porch at TE you'll be looking right into them. What a cluster this plan is. I gave them the benefit of the doubt that they'd do the right thing by Fort Wilderness and create a beautiful, complimentary resort. But this doesn't look good. It truly is taking over the settlement.

I like that the new barn will be built down in the general Settlement area, rather than out by the Outpost as was discussed 8 or 9 years ago. However, the only reason they're doing it this way is because it can be advertised as an amenity for Reflections. I bet they will push carriage rides, trail rides and pony rides, and perhaps even offer some grossly overpriced equine therapy sessions among the various spa packages they'll offer.

What about the foreign cry babies?

After rereading the announcement, I think maybe we are being too hard on Disney. Go back and take a look, and you'll note that, while they are charging adults $199, they are only charging children $169. So for a family of 4, that dinner will cost you $60 less than you thought! That savings can buy you a couple of GAG's....or whatever they call them now, so you can sit inside an active construction zone while enjoying your chicken and steak fries. Oh wait, the steak fries were killed off at TE several years ago. Damn that Mouse!

I had the same thought. The times INC and I have gone to CG we spent around $100pp. I guess if you were big drinkers and/or liked expensive wine, you could easily get it up to $200pp, but there's no way I could do that.

Yet another private viewing area for Happily Ever After. They keep squeezing out the poor slobs who "only" purchased a park admission ticket, setting aside multiple prime viewing areas for those paying extra charges for the various dessert parties, dinner parties, etc. Making matters worse is the choice they made when crafting HEA to replace Wishes to include all of the projections, making the real estate in front of the castle even more desirable. That decision has led to the escalation in property values we are seeing in front of the castle....people are willing to pay more and more just

As the story goes, Bob started painting the sign at the Tennessee T campground a couple of years ago....T.....E..... and he started getting tired and realized that Tennessee has WAY too many letters. So he said to heck with it, painted XAS and the rest is history.

Correct. And it gave me Palpatations. LOL.

It blew me away.

If you haven't seen the trailer yet and don't want to read spoilers, stop reading. Who else was blown away? I mean, the opening scene when Rey jumps the tie fighter was awesome, and seeing Lando was very cool, but did anyone not get goosebumps by the maniacal laughter at the end? Wow am I excited for December. What are your thoughts?

That was the original plan, but the life jacket clashed with the gown and the whole ensemble just didn't work. Safety first, you know? So that plan was scrapped and I'm just going to blow a bunch of stuff up.

Don't worry. I'm bringing it to Defeated Creek and setting it up in the lake.