Glad to be here. Thanks for the info. The app shows the overall site size, "this site is 14 feet wide and 65 feet deep" for 105 for example. That's great info for an rv, but for us the pad is the most important, as it will determine which tent(s) we take. We are experienced tent campers with many options when it comes to tents so now its all about getting the most usable covered space out of the site. Would really like to take the 16x16 (five of us)and still have room for canopy and kitchen area. Your info on the 200 loop is fantastic and much appreciated. Again thanks for the welcome and inf